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Taurus 856 and 857 Versus S&W J Frame Revolvers

September 27, 2019 by Heyward Williams 5 Comments

At the 2018 SHOT show, among the more interesting revolvers was the Taurus 856 revolver. The 856 is based upon the proven and immensely popular Taurus 85, a small-frame revolver that holds five .38 Special cartridges. The 856 is a version of the Model 85 with a six-shot cylinder. It is quite an engineering feat to design such a revolver.

Taurus revolver on a black silhouette target
The Taurus .38 gave good results on the firing range.

The revolver illustrated, the 857, is even newer and at present a bit difficult to obtain. The 857 is an aluminum frame version of the steel frame 856. While the steel frame revolver is easier to fire and use well, as the extra weight absorbs recoil energy, the aluminum frame version is easier to conceal. In this day of eight-shot N frame revolvers and seven-shot GP 100-size handguns, the Taurus 856 is big news in a real way.

Those carrying the snubnose .38 revolver now have a truly compact design that carries six rather than five cartridges. Five cartridges cuts it slim in a defensive encounter, and six seems a magic number we are more comfortable with. It is the old debate of a J frame .38 versus the Colt six shot Detective Special. The 856 revolver shoots more like a five-shot J frame than a six-shot Colt but it also holds six cartridges. This is good to have!

The 856 is a steel frame revolver; the 857 is an aluminum frame revolver. The 856 is compact enough and rides light but the 857 rides even lighter. Both are six-shot double action revolvers with an exposed hammer chambered for the popular .38 Special cartridge.

Taurus revolver propped against an open boc of Winchester white box ammunition
The Taurus and Winchester ammo are a good combination.

The revolver features a ramp front sight and a well-designed fixed sight in the top strap. The action is smooth enough to be mastered by those who practice. The double-action press allows a trained shooter to make good hits to 10 yards or so. The single action trigger breaks at 4 pounds (or a little less) and is quite crisp.

The grips are very well designed. The most important design feature of the grips is that the rubber grips are offset from the frame in a manner that prevents the metal frame from contacting the hand during recoil. Checkering on the sides and backstrap of the grips is well done.

There is a slight shelf or finger rest on each side of the grip that guides the finger to the trigger on one side and may act as a thumbrest on the other. The design of the grip seems to raise the bore axis and allows good leverage when firing.

grip panels on a Taurus revolver
The grip panels of the Taurus are ideal for control when firing heavy loads.

When the .38 Special five-shot was first introduced it was often referred to as a .38 on the .32 frame. This was correct. When introduced, the I frame Smith and Wesson was chambered for the .32 Smith and Wesson Long cartridge and held six shots. The .32 is far from an effective personal defense caliber, in my opinion.

Later, the .38 Smith and Wesson (an underpowered short .38) version held five shots. The J frame with its lengthened chamber and wider frame window chambered the powerful .38 Special cartridge. Modern technology applied to an 1890s design now allows six shots in the J frame envelope.

Let’s look at the Taurus 856 and 857.

Specifications

Taurus Model 856 and Model 857

Capacity Six shots
Caliber .38 Special
Action Double action and single action
Barrel length 2 inches
Overall Length 6.5 inches
Height 4.8 inches
Width 1.5 inches
Weight 856, 22 ounces, 857, 12.5 ounces

I have always regarded the snubnose .38 as an excellent short-range defense handgun. The revolver is simple to manipulate, draw, and press the trigger to fire. It is simple to load and unload. In a worst-case scenario at contact range, the revolver may be pressed into the adversary’s body and fired with every press of the trigger. A self-loader may jam after the first shot.

Taurus revolver versus slimline 9mm
Compared to the five-shot .38 and slim line 9mm, the Taurus is a good handy size.

In this busy world, few of us have the time needed to practice. This isn’t the handgun I would wish to have when confronting a gang or an active shooter, but the snubnose .38 will save your life and is well suited to close range defense. Just the same, the type is surprisingly accurate given a skilled shooter.

I evaluated the Taurus 857 with a wide variety of ammunition over the past few months. These included 110- and 125-grain hollow points and a number of 148-grain target loads as well as 158-grain RNL bullets. The revolver has performed well and has never failed to cycle or fire.

This isn’t the smoothest double-action trigger on the market, but it is consistent and allows good hits to seven yards. It takes more concentration to make double action hits at 10 yards. The wide smooth trigger works well for good leverage. With the single-action mode of fire, center hits on man-sized targets were possible at a long 25 yards but this is a stunt with the snub nose .38.

Taurus 856 revolver black, right, profile
With its matte black finish and laser engraved scrollwork the Taurus isn’t unattractive.

By staging the trigger, bringing it back just short of the hammer breaking, taking a good sight picture, and dropping the hammer, accuracy is much improved. The trick is to do this quickly. In other words, this piece is as accurate as any five-shot two-inch barrel revolver, more so than some, but holds six shots.

I fired a good quantity of the Winchester 158-grain RNL loading and found it a good target load. An overlooked loading that I find well suited to personal defense is the Winchester Silvertip 125-grain +P. Recoil is modest and the balance of expansion and penetration favors expansion.  Some loads are heavier than others. While controllable and comfortable due to the rubber stocks, muzzle flip is pronounced. This revolver demands practice to master.

Loaded Pachmayr speed loader
The flats of the Pachmayr speed loader make for a compact profile. This is a load of Winchester Silvertips.

I used the Blackhawk! all leather IWB and pocket holster with the Taurus 857. Frankly, it was stretch for these J frame holsters. After a break-in period, I had them working well with good speed, but they would have been too loose to have been used with the five-shot Taurus 85, as an example, but they serve.

Other makers will offer holsters for the 856/857 soon, and some holsters will accommodate the Taurus. The Taurus 857 is a lightweight .38 and might be a live saver in the right situation. In any case, peace of mind comes cheap with this revolver. The list price is over $300, but the revolver is often found for sale at less.

Do you have a favorite wheel gun? Do you carry a revolver for self-defense or keep one at home for defense? What is your experience or impressions of the Taurus 856 and 857? Share your answers in the comment section.

Taurus 856 revolver in a Blackhawk! holster
The Blackhawk! pocket holster gave good results.
Loaded Pachmayr speed loader
The flats of the Pachmayr speed loader make for a compact profile. This is a load of Winchester Silvertips.
Taurus revolver propped against an open boc of Winchester white box ammunition
The Taurus and Winchester ammo are a good combination.
Taurus 856 Ultra Lite revolver
The Ultra Lite is a handy piece practically unnoticed in concealed carry.
Taurus 856 revolver right profile
The Taurus proved reliable.
Taurus 856 revolver black, right, profile
With its matte black finish and laser engraved scrollwork the Taurus isn’t unattractive.
Taurus revolver versus slimline 9mm
Compared to the five-shot .38 and slim line 9mm, the Taurus is a good handy size.
grip panels on a Taurus revolver
The grip panels of the Taurus are ideal for control when firing heavy loads.
Taurus revolver in a black Galco Hornet leather holster
The Taurus fits well in the Galco Hornet crossdraw.
Taurus revolver on a black silhouette target
The Taurus .38 gave good results on the firing range.
Taurus 856 revolver in a Galco bellyband holster
The Taurus carries well in this Galco bellyband.

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Filed Under: Pistols, Reviews, Taurus Tagged With: .38 Special, 856, Blackhawk, Concealed Carry, Galco, Home Defense, personal defense, pocket holsters, Revolvers, Taurus, Winchester

Reader Interactions

Comments

  1. GomeznSA says

    September 27, 2019 at 8:25 pm

    J frames were the go to for off duty or detectives for many years – until the sub compact and now micro 9mms came along. I suspect that a lot of us still have 1 (or 3 or 4) hanging around. They still work. A good case can be made for the 6 shot versions like in this piece (pun intended).
    Another option is the Ruger LCR – especially in .327Magnum. 6 shots, probably a bit more of a bark than .38+P but then again velocity near .357Magnum. Not a bad choice if one ‘likes’ wheel guns. Now if only someone made speed loaders for them…………

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  2. william s Palmer says

    September 28, 2019 at 4:15 am

    I have many original S&W J frames,currently 7,which is less than I usually have! I also own many other pistols from Beretta,H&K,DW,Springfueld,Colt etc. I am a trainer who works primarily with private groups, since civilians typically know it all,and think YouTube is training!! For many years the NYC Reload as popularized by Jim Cirillo of the famed NYC Stakeout squad, was the way to go. I still use it today. The J frame has many versions that are perfect for under cover an covert work. Hammerless versions like the model 42 or better yet the 49,which still allows single action fire are great for deep cover or pocket carry. The light versions like a model 37 make perfect ankle or small of technology back carry pieces. The snub gun IA as accurate as any other piece and then some. Cirillo regularly took op honors in many competitions using a 2in snubbie! It’s called practice! Bottom line,nothing is faster,nothing, and more reliable then the snub gun. It takes work to use well,which is the real reason today’s wannabes and arm chair commandos don’t use obe, preferring a plastic fantastic with 15 rds and three mags that only makes them more of a liability to everyone around them, then the well trained quiet professional that knows 5 gets it done,when you know what you are doing,and wether reloading or carrying a second piece is your choice,either works with practice.

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  3. Randy says

    September 28, 2019 at 2:57 pm

    Great review !! I have not heard of the 857. I thought the aluminum one was called the 856 UL. Looks like nice revolver. I’m looking forward to seeing one in person.

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  4. Matthew Robinson says

    November 4, 2019 at 7:11 am

    I just purchased a Taurus 856 UL, and it’s a great shooter. The only thing I don’t like are the grips. On my Smith and Wesson, I replaced the original synthetic boot grips with the old classic panel wood grips, and love it. I find it much more comfortable in the hand. Now if I can find their equivalent for my Taurus 856 Ultra-Lite…

    Or, if I can fit my S&W panel grips on the Taurus…

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  5. Jason says

    November 7, 2019 at 12:47 pm

    Great review! I have several snubnose revolvers, Ruger, S&W, etc and love my 856 UL. I keep it loaded with Underwood 150 grain hard cast wad cutters and feel very confident it will protect my family if called upon.

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