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The Pistol Caliber Carbine (PCC)

January 4, 2019 by David Dolbee 16 Comments

The concept of the pistol caliber carbine, or PCC, is nothing new. In fact, early muzzleloading pistols often used the same caliber as their longer smoke-pole counterparts. The lever-action rifles used on the range by cowboys often chambered the same cartridge as their sixguns. Being able to share ammunition between the guns simply made logistical sense, and at the time, the power factor between the pistol and long gun was negligible.

American Tactical’s Mil-Sport 9mm AR-15 Pattern Carbine
American Tactical’s Mil-Sport 9mm AR-15 Pattern Carbine is a blowback operated carbine, built on a billet 9mm AR lower receiver with a forged aluminum Mil-sport upper receiver. The lower is built with a Mil-Spec AR-15 lower parts kit, carbine buffer spring, 5.5 ounce buffer for improved cycling of the 9mm cartridge, carbine buffer tube with 6-position adjustable Rogers Superstoc.

Eventually, it was the advancement of the long-gun cartridge that caused the change. With newer powders and better bullet technology, the long gun’s power and speed outgrew anything the pistol could handle. This caused a logical separation between the two. On the open range, for defense or hunting, rifle cartridges that were more powerful were desirable. Hunters could effectively take game at longer distances, and area-defense ranges were increased when facing hostiles or enemy troops. This made the pistol-caliber rifle cartridge fall out of favor for most. Today, however, it is experiencing a huge resurgence for at least two reasons.

The two reasons could be simply stated by the early popularity of the CZ Scorpion and SIG MPX. While there have been dozens of models from more than a handful of different manufacturers, these two models were the breakout successes that forged the path for others to follow. However, the PCC owes its surging popularity to something other than a particular model or two. Pistol-caliber carbines are popular because they are cheaper to shoot than comparable long-gun cartridges.

Think about it. Bulk .223/5.56mm ammunition is going to run about 30 cents a round. On the other hand, you can buy 9mm for as cheap as 15 cents a round for Steelcase and 19 for remanufactured ammunition—and that does not even touch on the additional savings enjoyed by those who reload. Building on the cost difference, there is the fact that PCCs have less recoil than a .223/5.56mm, enhancing accuracy and increasing the enjoyment of new shooters who fear recoil.

Just Right Carbine (JRC) pistol caliber carbine
Just Right Carbine (JRC) offers its pistol caliber carbine with a Keymod rail chambered in 9mm, .40 S&W, .357 SIG, .45 ACP and 10mm. Of course black coordinates with anything, but for those wanting a bit more, JRC offers the Keymod model in Kryptek camo.

I am sure you are already thinking about and debating the minimal recoil the .223 Rem. enjoys. Noted and agreed, but that does not mean less isn’t better. The .223 Rem. has less recoil than a .308 or .30-06, but it has more recoil than a 9mm. So, if less is better, the 9mm still wins with faster target reacquisition times on the target range or in a self-defense situation where it really counts.

Carbine-length barrels are proving their worth on the target range. Competition- or defensive-oriented organizations such as USPSA, IDPA, and 3-gun have all seen surges in popularity since the introduction of pistol-caliber carbine divisions to their ranks. Platform-specific models such as the SIG MPX, Kel-Tec Sub 2000, and even Hi-Point carbines have spiked in popularity—featured in calibers ranging from 9mm to potent 10mm models. But the natural leviathan in the market is 9mm for several reasons that we have already covered.

The Logical Evolution

With striker-fired polymers and 1911s dominating the pistol market and gun safes across the nation filled with AR-15s chambered in .223 Rem., .300 BLK., 6.5 Creedmoor, or other popular rifle calibers, it is only logical that the PCC would be the logical next step. In fact, I would go so far as to say we are watching the dawn of the pistol-caliber carbine AR market, and it is time we jump in with both feet.

Trojan Firearms PRO9V1 pistol caliber carbine
Trojan Firearms PRO9V1 series of pistol caliber carbines are not just converted AR-15s. Instead, Trojan specifically designed the line from the ground up for superior reliability, the same great handling of the standard AR platform.

Other than trade shows or the NRA Show, my first introduction to PCCs came from a longtime friend and owner of J&L Gunsmithing, Jim Jones. Jim has had his finger on the pulse of target shooters and self-defense enthusiasts alike—both from customers and personal experience. In the first four months of 2018, J&L only sold or built a small handful of ARs in .223/5.56mm, but pistol-caliber carbines have flown off the shelf as fast as they were received.

I am not saying the market for rifle-caliber AR-15s is falling by any great numbers. The .223 Rem., .224 Valkyrie, and 6.5 Creedmoor are all alive and doing well, but those markets have softened in favor of the pistol-caliber carbine. As proof, you do not need to look any further than your favorite manufacturer. Likely, it will not only offer a pistol-caliber carbine, it will have multiple models and calibers.

For me, it was when Primary Weapons Systems (PWS) announced a PCC. Known for only offering piston-driven models, PWS was not a likely candidate to offer a PCC. PWS now offers a pistol and rifle chambered for 9mm. It also offers uppers, lowers, and stripped lowers in pistol calibers. Simply put, the PCC market is growing at a rate that companies that wish to be in business in a few years simply cannot afford to ignore.

Wilson Combat AR9 left profile
Not simply a converted AR-15, the Wilson Combat AR9 has been specifically designed for superior reliability and maximum accuracy, while retaining the familiar handling and controls of the AR platform. Wilson Combat engineers have designed two unique AR9 lower receivers with last-round bolt hold open that are compatible with the most popular 9mm service pistol magazines from Glock and Beretta.

Your First Pistol Caliber Carbine

Because so many of us already have an AR-15 or two tucked away in our gun safe, our first logical thought is to cannibalize parts and build a PCC or throw a PCC upper on one of the lowers we already own. While there are a few companies making conversion kits, I would caution against proceeding down this route. The buffer will likely be different, you will obviously have to use a different bolt-carrier group, and then there is the matter of the trigger. Will a trigger from a 5.56 rifle work? Yes, but its life will be significantly shortened. That’s because the difference in recoil and the bolt’s operation will (typically) cause a lot of premature wear on the trigger. You are much better off not going down a road where the parts were not designed to work with one other.

While there are several manufacturers offering PCCs, the bulk of the market is going to the AR-style platform fed by Glock magazines. After all, it makes sense. The AR-15 is one of, if not the most prolific firearm platforms in the country. The 1911 may certainly give Glock a run for its money as far as total numbers are concerned. That means there are a lot of Glocks out there, and parts for them are easy to come by. Since most PCCs are running Glock magazines, the combination is a match made in heaven. Much like the cowboys with lever actions and six shooters, sharing ammunition and, more importantly in this case, magazines… The dual compatibility is huge when you think of the application in a 3-gun match or home/area defense situation. Think of it this way: If you already own a Glock in the same caliber for target or home defense, you can run the same magazines and shoot the same ammunition. This makes buying twice the magazines and splitting the duty between both platforms a no brainer.

American Tactical’s 9mm carbine adapter
Adapters such as American Tactical’s 9mm model will allow you to use a standard AR-15 lower with a 9mm upper, but the author cautions against quick fixes. You will likely want a different buffer and trigger as well.

Reloaders can use the same load, bullet, powder, and dies for both weapons. And, reloading a pistol caliber is much easier, too, because you do not have to deal with a bottleneck shell. Top that off with the fact that the brass will last longer, and the savings for high-volume target shooters and self-defense enthusiasts really continues to mount.

Home/Area Defense

AR-15s are a popular home defense choice. After all, accuracy is easier compared with a pistol, it is as easy to wield as a tactical shotgun, but the magazine will carry more rounds. Unlike the 5.56mm, overpenetration with a pistol caliber through a hostile—or the wall next to them—is greatly reduced. This adds a factor of safety for your loved ones in adjacent rooms or the neighbor’s cat.

Should your role need to change from home defense to area defense, the PCC has better range and accuracy at distance than a pistol or shotgun. It has the power to easily dispatch varmints (two or four legged) out to 100 yards without much concern. Should the threat be farther than that, it may not be considered a threat at all under the law.

However, should you find yourself in such a situation, you are still better off with the PCC than you would be with a pistol or shotgun, and you should have time to retrieve a rifle of suitable caliber for the task. Are you in the market for a truck gun? Think of the applications. PCCs are also easier to suppress…

Federal Premium Hydra-Shok Deep personal defense ammunition
Pistol caliber carbines are not only setting records on the target range, they are worthy home defenders or truck guns, shooting the same reliable self-defense ammunition you’d use out of a handgun, but with more punch.

Competition

Many of the same advantages covered in home defense apply to competition, including cost savings and equipment compatibility. In USPSA, you can shoot multiple divisions, one with your pistol and another with a PCC, using the same ammunition and magazines if you choose. In 3-gun, you would not have to carry both AR mags and pistol magazines. As for the long-range targets, there will usually be two sets of targets to engage, one for 5.56s and one for PCCs, which are smaller but closer. This keeps it even between equipment types. PCCs do not need expensive scopes either. A quality red dot or open sights will get the job done.

Pistol-caliber carbines enjoy yet another advantage. Bullets in 9mm are suitable for indoor ranges. Using them from a PCC is no different. This expands the number of places you can train and events you can enter.

Conclusion

Whether you are a veteran competitor looking for your next challenge or preparing to ward off the wolf that wants to blow your house down, PCCs have arrived and you don’t want to be left behind.

Do you have a pistol caliber carbine? WHich model and caliber? Share your answers in the comment section.


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Comments

  1. C Ginther says

    January 4, 2019 at 6:31 pm

    Picked up a Ruger PC Carbine in 9mm in December during the Christmas sales. It is a fun carbine to shoot and cheep to shoot to boot. Little recoil and relatively lightweight and to top it off it breaks down like the venerable Ruger 10/22 takedown for easy carry in a backpack. Of course takes Ruger and Glock mags with a simple insert swap.
    Great little truck and plinking gun.

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  2. Leonard T. Englehart says

    January 4, 2019 at 7:05 pm

    I have 4 Hi Point fire arms, from 380, 9mm pistol & carbine, 45 pistol, and I’m well satisfied with all 4 weapons with each having a different function in my plans. No problems have been encountered with all of the Hi Points, having gone thru multi-hundreds of the different calibers. The carbine is my favorite among all of my firearms including those not listed above. Being a benefactor member of the NRA so I purchased Life memberships for both of my sons years ago. The NRA is a common sense approach to the mass hysteria that is promoted by various political and social hysteria groups.

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  3. Charles Storm says

    January 4, 2019 at 7:12 pm

    Hardly a revolutionary idea for me. I have had a Beretta CX4 carbine and a PX4 sub-compact in my quick safe for home defense for almost 10 years. The both shoot 9mm and the 14 round magazines are interchangeable. 28 rounds ought a solve any situation. The pistol is only big enough for a small laser, but the carbine is fully loaded with a 500 lumen light and green laser. Beretta never pushed it big in marketing and the media never warmed up to it, but I thought it was the cats meow. And with a name like Storm, how could I go wrong?

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  4. Ronald says

    January 4, 2019 at 7:46 pm

    I have two Hi-Point PCC’s. One is a 9MM and the other is a .40 S&W. They are fun to shoot and are accurate. I also have a Kel-Tec .40 S&W Sub2000 that uses Glock magazines which is good for me since I have a lot of Glock mags. I have just recently purchased a Just Right Carbine in 10MM that also uses Glock mags. It can be converted to 9MM, 45, .357, and 40S&W and the conversions all use Glock. Look it up on their web site

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  5. Jim says

    January 4, 2019 at 8:12 pm

    I purchased a CZ scorpion carbine because I got a good deal and thought it would be fun. Now all my other firearms spend all their time in the safe. I think PCC’s are a addictive substance. And everyone that shoots it gets hooked.

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  6. karl says

    January 4, 2019 at 8:13 pm

    Marlin 1894C 357Mag and Ruger GP100 4″ 357Mag.
    In lever action rifles/carbines you lose bullet weight and length to the revolvers.

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  7. BillB says

    January 4, 2019 at 8:29 pm

    Picked up a Kel Tec Sub2000 that takes Beretta 92 magazines. Since I carry various 92 pistols and have a lot of magazines there were only two choices for me. Kel Tec or the Beretta rifle. If there had been a reasonable priced AR style I’d probably have got one.

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  8. Luis says

    January 4, 2019 at 8:44 pm

    In would Love to buy one tha TV would take the Smith &Wesson M&P magazine not the glock. And I don’t like the sub 2000.

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  9. Alan says

    January 5, 2019 at 7:16 am

    I have a SIg Sauer MPX and a CZ Scorpion, both in 9mm. Shot side by side the Sig is a smoother running action, but the Scorpion is ultra reliable and the cool factor is out the roof !

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  10. William Whitehurst says

    January 5, 2019 at 7:50 am

    Beretta CX4 Storm and Kel-Tec SUB2000 (Beretta) in 9 mm. Both are fun to shoot, more accurate than I can shoot out to 100 yards and they all share 17 and 30 round mags. Looking for a Beretta M9A3 to complete the bundle and have carbine/pistol combo.

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  11. Gregg Trubee says

    January 6, 2019 at 9:20 am

    FN’s PS 90 Did all of the above a long time ago. +/-

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  12. Docduracoat says

    January 22, 2019 at 10:44 am

    I forgot to mention one of the major advantages of the PCC 9 mm
    you can shoot them at an indoor range
    Shooting an an AK or AR at 25 and 50 feet indoors is loud and not a challenge at all.
    A 9mm PCC is fun at these distances.
    And will be accurate out to 100 yards if you do get to shoot outdoors

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  13. Karl says

    January 22, 2019 at 10:49 am

    A lever action rifle/carbine in 357Mag,44Mag,41Mag,45Colt will do the same,yet have a ” lower political profile e.g.”its a cowboy gun”.Something to think about in these perilous times.

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  14. Paul says

    October 11, 2019 at 8:15 pm

    My PCC is the slightly more exotic IWI TAVOR X95, 9mm. It uses 32rd. AR mags and runs like a Rolex. I’ve added a Sig Romeo 5 and Juliet 4 optics. Also an Odin Works muzzle break and a Geissel trigger pack to enhance the control and an INFORCE weapons light help me see at night. I’m closing in on 2000 rds without a single failure of any kind. A truly formidable weapon with amazing accuracy. The ammo is cheap and matches my Sig 320c sidearm. With 15+1 on my hip and 32+1 on my sling I feel pretty well armed for most any bad encounter.

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  15. william s Palmer says

    October 12, 2019 at 5:40 am

    I own a CZ Scorpionpistol,with folding stock/brace. Surefire 300x light,Holosun 503 on a QDmount and I am good to go. Unless most arm chair commandos,I prefer 20 rd mags,that are more compact. I can hit what I aim at, and never used spray n pray tactics,when working DOD, or now. I also have a Ruger Pc9. This is a nice,less tactical looking,carbine that is fun to use. It is very accurate with its preferred ammunition, and the take down option is nice for travel, though it is still larger taken apart, then the CZ. The Ruger handles like a “regular”rifle and is perfect for casual training and new shooters. The Ruger (imo) is a heavy rifle for its caliber. I use the glock 26 12 rd mag that fits almist flush in the mag well. I also use a KelTec sub 2000 2nd generation, that folds remarkably small,with a Holosun 503 on QD mount,and a Streamlight TLR 1 light. It shoots very well,is very light and fits in a Boyt 16 in pistol case with all the accessories; light,red dot,sling, 3 17 Rd mags ,1 33 Rd mag and two boxes of 50rds 9mm!! Enough to load all the mags and stop a small rebellion!!

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  16. Bohica66 says

    October 12, 2019 at 10:12 am

    I acquired a Marlin Camp9 from a pawnshop years ago. These were made from 1985 till 1999. Replaced the recoil spring with a heavier Wolfe and put in a new Blackjack buffer pad. It only had one Marlin 12 round magazine, but I picked up 3 fifteen round S&W 59 series stainless magazines at a gun show for a fair price. Put a cheap reflex sight that I had lying around on a picatinny rail. The little carbine is fun and accurate, but I didn’t care for the plastic magwell, I was always scared it might break. So, I recently bought a Ruger PC9, left the Ruger magwell in and bought two double packs of Ruger SR9 seventeen round magazines from magazine wharehouse at about half what Ruger wants. Put a Bushnell TS25 red dot on it. Love this little carbine, runs like a sewing machine, light recoil, fun and accurate. Sadly I put the Camp9 away in the gun safe in favor of the modern, more robust Ruger.

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