“Concerned a Co-Worker Is Dangerous? the KQED News headline asks. “This bill would let you petition the state to take their guns.” To make the case for adding to the state’s citizen disarmament options, a couple examples are given of California “gun violence restraining orders” being used to take guns away under petitions filed by family members or law enforcement officers. This latest push expands the list of those eligible to initiate gun seizures to employers, co-workers, high school and college staff members, and mental health workers.
The expansion is the brainchild of Assemblyman Phil Ting, unsurprisingly a San Francisco Democrat, and this is actually his second attempt to enact it. Also unsurprisingly, both times have been in response to murders that happened in so-called “gun-free zones,” where the killers evidently didn’t get the message (or more likely, got it loud and clear).
That this doesn’t sink in with Ting’s constituents is also no surprise. When Ting violated Assembly rules by “ghost voting,” it didn’t bother them enough to give him his walking papers. And, the unvarnished support he received from convicted “gun criminal” (and former rabidly “anti-gun” California politician) Leland Yee hasn’t raised any eyebrows in his district either.
On the surface, to those who don’t look too deeply below it, protection orders can sound reasonable and what the gun-grabbers call “common sense”—as long as you don’t question American citizens being stripped of a fundamental right without being convicted of a crime. This has put the ACLU, of all groups, on the right side of the issue and at odds with the NRA and no shortage of supposed conservatives. Per the ACLU’s Rhode Island chapter:
“The heart of the legislation’s [Extreme Risk Protection Order] ERPO process requires speculation—on the part of both the petitioner and judges—about an individual’s risk of possible violence. But, the ACLU analysis notes: ‘Psychiatry and the medical sciences have not succeeded in this realm, and there is no basis for believing courts will do any better. The result will likely be a significant impact on the rights of many innocent individuals in the hope of preventing a tragedy.’”
But that hasn’t stopped so-called conservative pundits from jumping on the protection order bandwagon. Ditto for President Donald Trump and for NRA “A”-rated Lindsey Graham, who couldn’t team up fast enough with “F”- rated Richard Blumenthal…
Unsurprisingly, for those of us who follow such things, the same goes for the National Rifle Association. (Hear for yourself starting at 3:15 in its video. Saying “they should have strong due process protections” does not change the fact that such orders really don’t, and can’t by their very nature.)
“[A]s they are currently implemented, these laws come with major pitfalls and potential for serious abuse,” Doctors for Responsible Gun Ownership warns. “They violate the principles of liberty and establish a dangerous ‘guilty until proven innocent’ standard. GVROs and ERPOs passed to date violate multiple Constitutional protections beyond the Second Amendment. These include the rights to equal treatment and against unreasonable search and seizure (4th Amendment), the rights of the accused (6th), and the right to due process (5th and 14th).”
And, of course, there’s another indisputable reality that none of the proponents of restraining orders want to even acknowledge, let alone talk about:
“Anyone who can’t be trusted with a gun can’t be trusted without a custodian.”
If proven-violent persons are still truly dangerous, Robert J. Kukla made a brilliant observation in his 1973 classic “Gun Control,” equating their release from prison with opening the cage of a man-eating tiger and expecting a different result.
If there is “clear, convincing, admissible evidence” that a supposedly “restrained” party is a danger, how is it responsible to allow such a menace access to the rest of us until such time as it can be established that he [she] is no longer a threat? Does anyone think he couldn’t kill with something else? Or, noting routine headlines from places such as Chicago and Baltimore, that he couldn’t get a gun? Why wouldn’t he be separated from society, after being afforded real “due process,” with all appropriate protections of course?
Concessions on these measures by the NRA, which in turn gives the green light to Republicans, is nothing short of preemptive surrender. It won’t stop the Democrats from coming back for even more, especially as they perceive they are better positioned to launch their next assault. Meanwhile, they’ll still continue screaming how the “uncompromising and extremist” NRA is a terrorist organization and Republicans are fascists.
We know where the slippery slope leads, and that the violence monopolists want it all. Giving them anything makes as much sense as tossing a scrap of flesh to a circling pack of jackals and believing that will satisfy and make them go away.
Well on its way down that slope, California is on a “gun control” binge reminiscent of an eye-rolling shark feeding frenzy. Thanks to practically unchallengeable Democrat dominance, it has the votes to do pretty much whatever it wants, so don’t be surprised if Ting’s bill passes this time, and that after it does, he and his fellow gun-grabbers, both in and outside of California, will be demanding more.
Will Assemblyman Ting be successful in his bid to enact another law that allows lawful gun owners to have their firearms confiscated without due process? Will this type of law spread outside of California? Share your answers in the comment section.
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I have always believed that they are taking away a person’s rights before he is convicted of a crime and it would be dangerous. It looks like the disease is spreading into Oregon as well. People need to realize that looking in on a situation you can not tell fully what is going on. If someone does not like guns in the family they make a report and have your guns removed. They were also discussing a neighbor or friend being able to make report and they would take your guns until you are proven innocent. This is not the way the law works, we are innocent until proven guilty. We are not to be abused and robbed of our rights unless it is a proven fact that we are a problem by the proper means. It is time for people to remember the law and all men’s rights and stop trying to take them away. “Innocent until proven guilty.”